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My Niece is off on some sort of charity type trip to some foreign land and is walking so needs a compact 2 season bag.
I've found one https://www.alpkit.com/products/mountain-ghost" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; which looks quite good, but any other thoughts - and John, not looking at £300 ones
I've found one https://www.alpkit.com/products/mountain-ghost" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; which looks quite good, but any other thoughts - and John, not looking at £300 ones
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Looks ok for that season rating, it's about how small it will compress down to and how much space /weight she has to carry.
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Well it is only a kilo so thought that pretty good - size doesn't seem too bad either - I'm not sure the full details, just a 2 season sack with compression bag.
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The bag in the pic isn't a compression bag, just looks like a normal sleeping bag stuff sack.
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Ah ok. The quoted info is :
Compression bag weight: 16 g
Compression bag size: 60 x 27 (Circumference x height)
Almost 2' by 1' seems quite big!
Compression bag weight: 16 g
Compression bag size: 60 x 27 (Circumference x height)
Almost 2' by 1' seems quite big!
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I will always recommend Alpkit - big fan of their kit
Might be big in size but if its light enough and a good price that might need to be the compromise.
Might be big in size but if its light enough and a good price that might need to be the compromise.
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Snug pac do some good bags. I do like Alpkit as well.
I recently bought Harriet a 3 season down bag for about £60 but it was from blacks in a closing down sale.
I recently bought Harriet a 3 season down bag for about £60 but it was from blacks in a closing down sale.
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Ex army ones any good?
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Not sure to be honest Gary. Another thought though
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Ex army tend to be warm but heavy and bulky. So it depends on use but I'd probably avoid for walking. She should be able to get a good two season bag for not huge money. However it's all relative if this is the only time she'll use it then it's pretty costly. If she will go camping or to tenting or even youth hosteling then it's probably not too bad.
Synthetic bags will take the most abuse. They will even keep you warm when they are wet, and they are your cheapest option. A down bag will be more expensive but it will pack down smaller and will be warmer for the same weight. (Or lighter for the same warmth). Down bags need to be stored in a non compressed way so tut the fibres aren't damaged. Synthetic also benefit from this but they don't get damaged as easily. Compressed fibres = a loss of warmth.
I always advise kids doing Duke of Edinburgh that a synthetic bag is ideal for their needs mainly because I know it's going to get some abuse ie used in bad weather and knowing explorers they'll probably have it around them whilst cooking dinner etc.
Things to look for:
Double layers of insulation that overlap. A stitched through construction means that you have two layers of material but not insulation where the stitching is.
A good makes a big difference
Check that where the zip is, that there is a baffle behind it that stops cold air getting in through the zip.
A mummy shape keeps the insulation closer to the body and therefore is warmer than a oblong design.
A compression sack will help with packing.
Insulation under a sleeping bag is pointless because your body weight compresses it and therefore doesn't capture air which keeps you warm. So there's no point in having a 5 season bag and not rollmat underneath.
Either a traditional foam rollmat or a self inflating one is ideal. Vango make some good but reasonably cheap mats. All kit also do mats. The market leader is thermarest (they really invented the self inflating mat).
A silk or thermal liner gives you more options in hot and cold weather. If it's hot just sleep in the liner or liner and sleeping bag opened up and thrown over like a duvet
If it's cold use both together.
A warm fleece hat can help keep you warm.
I personally favour the army method of sleeping which is basically naked or just boxers and not loads of layers of clothes. The idea being that having layers of clothes on insulates the bag from your body warmth which means the sleeping bag doesn't work well. It needs your body warmth to warm the air trapped in the fibres. If it's cold then put a jacket on top of a bag but don't dress in loads of layers.
I was actually teaching some of this last week and I'd asked the kids to bring along their kit. We looked at it and I was pretty horrified to find that a couple of them had high gear sleeping bags (Nothing wrong with that per se) the bags were rated as 4 season and comfortable down to -18. From looking at them and feeling them I honestly would say they were 1 season bags and probably rated to around 8 degrees comfort. I certainly would have loved to have seen the guy who rated it sleeping in it at -18! I think hypothermia would have kicked in and he wouldn't have made it through the night. So use your intelligence when looking at ratings. Most of the reputable manufacturers have good ratings: Mountain Equipment, Rab, Alp Kit, North face etc.
Synthetic bags will take the most abuse. They will even keep you warm when they are wet, and they are your cheapest option. A down bag will be more expensive but it will pack down smaller and will be warmer for the same weight. (Or lighter for the same warmth). Down bags need to be stored in a non compressed way so tut the fibres aren't damaged. Synthetic also benefit from this but they don't get damaged as easily. Compressed fibres = a loss of warmth.
I always advise kids doing Duke of Edinburgh that a synthetic bag is ideal for their needs mainly because I know it's going to get some abuse ie used in bad weather and knowing explorers they'll probably have it around them whilst cooking dinner etc.
Things to look for:
Double layers of insulation that overlap. A stitched through construction means that you have two layers of material but not insulation where the stitching is.
A good makes a big difference
Check that where the zip is, that there is a baffle behind it that stops cold air getting in through the zip.
A mummy shape keeps the insulation closer to the body and therefore is warmer than a oblong design.
A compression sack will help with packing.
Insulation under a sleeping bag is pointless because your body weight compresses it and therefore doesn't capture air which keeps you warm. So there's no point in having a 5 season bag and not rollmat underneath.
Either a traditional foam rollmat or a self inflating one is ideal. Vango make some good but reasonably cheap mats. All kit also do mats. The market leader is thermarest (they really invented the self inflating mat).
A silk or thermal liner gives you more options in hot and cold weather. If it's hot just sleep in the liner or liner and sleeping bag opened up and thrown over like a duvet
If it's cold use both together.
A warm fleece hat can help keep you warm.
I personally favour the army method of sleeping which is basically naked or just boxers and not loads of layers of clothes. The idea being that having layers of clothes on insulates the bag from your body warmth which means the sleeping bag doesn't work well. It needs your body warmth to warm the air trapped in the fibres. If it's cold then put a jacket on top of a bag but don't dress in loads of layers.
I was actually teaching some of this last week and I'd asked the kids to bring along their kit. We looked at it and I was pretty horrified to find that a couple of them had high gear sleeping bags (Nothing wrong with that per se) the bags were rated as 4 season and comfortable down to -18. From looking at them and feeling them I honestly would say they were 1 season bags and probably rated to around 8 degrees comfort. I certainly would have loved to have seen the guy who rated it sleeping in it at -18! I think hypothermia would have kicked in and he wouldn't have made it through the night. So use your intelligence when looking at ratings. Most of the reputable manufacturers have good ratings: Mountain Equipment, Rab, Alp Kit, North face etc.
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